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Hi John,
This is good, Phantom should then work for I/O the same as with Memory. Phantom is for overlaying "BUS SLAVES". This is understood, but where I'm getting a little confused is the use of the word Master and Slaves. If I understand this correctly, the first and original use of Master / Slave is the basic 1 CPU board (being the Master board) and several expansion boards for memory, I/O, Disk, etc (these are the Slave boards). The fundamental difference between these boards (assuming the 8 bit bus) is the flow of Data through Data-IN and DATA-OUT buses. Now, if I understand correctly, there is a second use of Master and Slave. This would be when we want more than 1 CPU card in a system. 1 CPU at a time is allowed to be the Master, but how is this done? Does the Master simply disconnect the Slave CPU from the bus with the 4 disable lines for the 4 buses? What does the Slave CPU do when it's disabled? Does it go into a wait mode? Does this system allow more than twp CPU boards? Where you wrote below, "However you will have to phantom out any overlap with other RAM board if present when that slave is the current bus master." , Is this use of "bus master" / slave referencing a CPU master/slave? I think I'm slowly getting it. I want this board to have RAM and I/O, I want those resources to be available to other CPU's in the system. At the moment, I'm only thinking of having only one CPU active (ie, when this board is a slave, it's CPU never operates), but it would be more elegant to have the feature where two CPU"s can live on the same bus, sharing all their resources and passing control of the bus back and forth to each other. Cheers, Josh From: mon...@vitasoft.org To: n8vem...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [N8VEM-S100:3502] Phantom of the S-100 Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 19:07:57 -0700 The IEEE-696 definition of the Phantom line states:- “The Phantom* line is provided for overlaying bus slaves at a common address location. When this line is activated, phantom bus slaves are enabled and normal slaves are disabled.” I read this as, yes, both RAM and port addresses. Normally a total card disappears from the bus if it is monitoring the phantom line, via its board select (BS) line.
Do not confuse a master/slave switchover and a phantom line call. The latter is always done by the current master (can be any one of 16 total) .
It’s up to you how you want your RAM to behave on your CPU board. It can be local to the board -- as for example is the ROM on our Z80 board, or shared with other CPU’s. The former has the advantage that it does not get in the way where that CPU is no longer the bus master. If it is visible when the CPU is no longer the bus master, you can still use that RAM. However you will have to phantom out any overlap with other RAM board if present when that slave is the current bus master.
Nothing special about access. As I said phantom normally just inactivates a board select line. Unless you are using DRAM’s (a whole other situation), memory RD/WR signals should be fine. Take a look at the phantom line on our old 4MB Static RAM board http://s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/RAM%20Board/4MG%20RAM%20Board.htm
Hope this helps John
From: n8vem...@googlegroups.com [mailto:n8vem...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Crusty OMO
Ok, I have the CPU board and Memory working with the FP. Had trouble with the FP driving all these chips on a single board, so I put in another buffer chip between the FP and the local bus. Fixed a few other timing issues/errors along the way. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "N8VEM-S100" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to n8vem-s100+...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |