Hi Paul,
Thank you, I am learning along the way and I'm pleased to hear different ideas and ways to make things better.
1. My bad, I didn't explain that I intended the LED to be at the top, the 5V is one "resistor length" down and into the board.
If there is a card handle installed, the LED might interfere... should I cancel it? or just move it to the right a little more? or put it next to the regulator, let the user peek into the cage for light (as if it's not dark enough in there to see it).
2. The DIP14's are going to be almost necessary, but as a free for all board, your idea of row's is more universal.
I think I'll just fill that area with the sea of PTH's, less two rows for the rails. Also, I'll move the traces to the copper side, so they can be scraped and bridged to the power pins.
I think that makes a good solution for #2, but #1 needs some more thought... Hmm.
Cheers,
Josh
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 08:03:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [N8VEM-S100:2591] Re: Board Run: Unbuffered Prototyping
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Thank you, I am learning along the way and I'm pleased to hear different ideas and ways to make things better.
1. My bad, I didn't explain that I intended the LED to be at the top, the 5V is one "resistor length" down and into the board.
If there is a card handle installed, the LED might interfere... should I cancel it? or just move it to the right a little more? or put it next to the regulator, let the user peek into the cage for light (as if it's not dark enough in there to see it).
2. The DIP14's are going to be almost necessary, but as a free for all board, your idea of row's is more universal.
I think I'll just fill that area with the sea of PTH's, less two rows for the rails. Also, I'll move the traces to the copper side, so they can be scraped and bridged to the power pins.
I think that makes a good solution for #2, but #1 needs some more thought... Hmm.
Cheers,
Josh
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 08:03:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [N8VEM-S100:2591] Re: Board Run: Unbuffered Prototyping
From: pbi...@gmail.com
To: n8vem...@googlegroups.com
OK, so the idea is both near-but-not-at the top so as to leave connector-room along top-edge? And then not too near edge due to (1) card-guide, and (2) getting hidden by a card-extractor (although in either case they've probably got a resistor-length swing in which to reposition)? (Bear with me here; just trying it out in my mind's eye!)
On the 3xDIP14, an alternative might be to leave that as 23-hole row-pair that's completely uncommitted (no power or caps) and leave it to users to decide on 3xDIP14 or 2xDIP16/18/20 use with their own solution for decoupling (and powering). They could scratch-thru the mask for local solder points (or we could leave some open spots in the mask over the traces), else wire from the sea-of-PTH (however they're distributing PWR/GND there).On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Crusty OMO <crus...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi Paul,
Have you never lost an LED at sea? hehe, just kidding. The idea is to be at the top of the card cage, some S-100 systems pack the cards in pretty tightly. The single trace out to sea does look out of place... but you'll not really notice it on the actual board after it's covered with soldermask. Which is why it's circled on the silk screen layer.
The 14 pin chips are just to not waste that space, I picked 14 because most designs use either a 7400 or 7404. I could space them a little more and remove 1 capacitor from in between. I do go over kill on the decoupling capacitors.
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 02:39:50 -0500
Subject: Re: [N8VEM-S100:2589] Re: Board Run: Unbuffered Prototyping
From: pbi...@gmail.com
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Thanks for the updated foils & silkscreen. What's with the three left-hand uncommitted DIP-14s and the two overlapped decoupling caps (which I guess could be attached to the underside)? Can you also share the updated schematic? How did you chose the end-point for the 5v power LED -- it seems to be "at sea" rather than "in harbor"?
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Crusty OMO <crus...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I printed a the foil patterns and got a more accurate view.
The chips on the bottom row are 6 74LS245's, from right to left, they provide
Status, Data In, Data Out, A8-15, A0-7, Control. 3 more 14 pin chips are to the left, with VCC and GND.
Holes are all down 50mil, Regulator has shifted to the right 100mil.
Original Unbuffered board gave 45 rows, this buffered board gives 42 rows.Copper:
Component
Silk - Grids are 10 by 10 holes. The 5V for the LED is marked, 5V and GND available from right.
The 7812 and 7912 Regulators are optional, if not installed, other chips can straddle the pads used.
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