Re: [N8VEM-S100:873] 1.1k 10-pin Resister Pack supplier (or alternative values)?

[Paul Birkel <pbi...@gmail.com>]

Thanks Tom, John.  Doing the verification part here before the testing
:->.  We need to collect these sorts of "tweaks that work" for the
various boards in appropriate locations methinks.

John:  While I've been reading up on the various calculations
regarding the selection of o.c. pullups and fanout/in calculations
(Wilcox Section 3.1.1 is quite good) I haven't found anything specific
on the selection of open-input pullups.  Recommendations?

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:38 PM, John Monahan <mon...@vitasoft.org> wrote:
> Paul this question has come up before.  There is nothing special about the
> 1.1K value of the pull-up resistors for the TTL circuits.  1K will be fine,
> as would the more common 1.2K types.  Jameco used to sell 1.1K's but no
> longer do.   The choice of value for pull-ups like that is a balance between
> noise immunity (low values, ~1K) to power utilization (high values ~2K or
> even 4.7K).   Other factors are signal pulse width and fan-out.
>
> John
>
>
>
> From:  John Monahan Ph.D
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> Text:    mon...@txt.att.net
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> Subject: [N8VEM-S100:870] 1.1k 10-pin Resister Pack supplier (or alternative
> values)?
>
> The S-100 MSDOS Board, Z80A Master CPU Board, and Serial I/O Board all
> specify the use of a 1.1k 10-pin Resister Pack.
>
> This seems to be an uncommon part.  Is there a recommended supplier?
>
> Alternatively, is the value critical in these three board-uses?
>
> The S-100 MS-DOS Board uses a pair of packs (RR7/8) as input pull-up
> resistors on the two 74LS165 address decoders. The Z80A Master CPU Board
> similarly uses three packs (RR3/4/7) as input pull-up resistors on its three
> 74LS165 address decoders.  It seems to me that in this use the values are
> fairly non-critical.  What is the recommended, commonly-available,
> alternative resistor value?
>
> The Serial I/O Board is a bit more complicated.  It uses a single pack
> (RR1) which connects to PU1K-A thru PU1K-I.
>
>    1. PU1K-A/B/C are used on the Z8530 UART_INT*, UART_IEI, and UART_INTA,
> apparently as input pull-ups.
>    2. PU1K-E/F are used as pull-ups on two outputs of a open-collector
> 74LS06N (the other 4 outputs are spares).
>    3. The remaining 4 pack-resistors are spared.
>
> Given this mixed-use, what would be the recommended, commonly-available,
> alternative resistor value?  Or should I consider hand-wiring single
> resistors in each case -- and then what would be the recommended values in
> each case (UART input pullups; o.c.
> pullups)?
>
> Thanks!
>
> paul
>