Hi John, I think you didn't read my post completely, I was addressing Todd Miller, then I addressed Don Caprio... it was me that was standing up for our right to fall down drinking! So the good news is, through hole is here to stay, so is drinking! John, I found you guys after buying some prototyping boards from Andrew Lynch on ebay. I recently sold a built 8080 board on ebay, that may have attracted more hobbyists. If I had any more 8080 boards, I'm sure they would sell on ebay. Consider creating an FAQ for this group. They do this at MARCH and post it the group on a monthly basis. I think the most common question is "where do I buy this board". Newcomers are not accustomed to a distributed hobbyist group. Cheers, Josh
From: mon...@vitasoft.org To: n8vem...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [N8VEM-S100:5944] SOIC Packages For S100 Boards - Survey Question Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2015 10:20:13 -0800 Well said Don! I’m wondering for 2015 if the is a way we could perhaps increase our exposure/membership. It seems that new people find us more or less by accident. Any ideas. John From: n8vem...@googlegroups.com [mailto:n8vem...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Crusty OMO
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 7:55 PM
To: n8vem...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [N8VEM-S100:5938] SOIC Packages For S100 Boards - Survey Question Todd,
You might be new to this crowd, but if no one objects, I will speak for the crowd in this one matter.
No voice is too new, too old or too drunk to be heard on this group. So long as it's on topic, in good taste and does not diminish some one else's pleasure. Standard Netiquette.
Don,
I'm not counting the votes, but it would appear that through hole is preferred. Let my advice on SMT serve anyone who wants it, but I'm going to change my vote to through hole to include those on or off the list or future members that where there in the 70's when S-100 started. John's advice to plant the chips closer or to even use daughter boards will get you through this real estate crisis.
I remember a similar discussion on another list, and a good point was brought up about many who are not able to do SMT. The reason may be anything (physical, psychological) but is definitely irrelevant. What is relevant is that we are stronger as a group and even more relevant that we are not excluding any of our brothers who may stay silent on the issue for other non relevant reasons.
Regards,
Josh Bensadon
PS. And a Happy New Year to all!
may 2015 be the year S-100 takes back the PC market! :)
(fyi, that last line was more of a joke...)
> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 20:00:45 -0600
> From: litte...@mchsi.com
> To: n8vem...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [N8VEM-S100:5937] SOIC Packages For S100 Boards - Survey Question
>
>
> Not that my opinion affects this group's projects, but
> here's my input for the 'older crowd'.
>
> I've been an electronics hobbyist since the 70's, but now
> I'm 50 and my eyesight isn't what it used to be. I have
> to use extra light & magnification. I have done fine pitch
> work in the past, but now I avoid it.
>
> I have tremors in my hands as well, but alcohol does help
> and I can control it when I need to. Plus I like whiskey ;-)
>
> I've done hot air and if you have the right tools, it's easy.
> I've adjusted my hobbies & skills to my physical abilities, but
> I still like to 'play!'
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kipp Yeakel" <kye...@stny.rr.com>
> To: n8vem...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 7:12:27 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: RE: [N8VEM-S100:5936] SOIC Packages For S100 Boards - Survey Question
>
> If I was building one, SMD chips would not be an issue as I have the proper equipment to install and remove them. Others may not want to invest that much.
>
> Kipp
>
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