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RE: [N8VEM-S100:2645] Re: A new (V2) version of the S100 Bus System Support Board



A 74S288 ROM chip can also be used... if the pins match?


> From: mon...@vitasoft.org
> To: n8vem...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [N8VEM-S100:2645] Re: A new (V2) version of the S100 Bus System Support Board
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 12:20:20 -0800
>
> One more note on this. I had actually considered doing a small GAL Hex to 7
> bit converter (GAL22V10), (the old DM9368 are no longer available), but
> again you really cannot multiplex it fast enough -- so you would need 10 of
> them. Could be on a (larger) mezzanine board but at $3 each (Jameco) and a
> new mezzanine layout board etc. I figure it's not worth it. Utsource
> (http://www.utsource.net/ic-datasheet/TIL311-421656.html) sells TIL's at
> ~$9.
> John
>
>
>
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> From: n8vem...@googlegroups.com [mailto:n8vem...@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of David Riley
> Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 7:37 PM
> To: n8vem...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [N8VEM-S100:2635] Re: A new (V2) version of the S100 Bus System
> Support Board
>
> On Mar 3, 2014, at 21:48, Andrew Bingham <ab...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think the big problem is as John mentioned you need to grab the data
> from the address and data buses and output it to the LCD fast enough to
> complete the update before the next clock cycle.
> >
> > Say you're talking about a 24-bit address and 16-bit data, in hex that is
> 10 characters. The part of the system talking to the LCD would have to
> update it at 120 Mhz in order to be able to update all 10 characters before
> the next clock cycle (and that's assuming that you can update 1 full
> character/clock). Most microcontrollers won't be up to that task.
>
> That's assuming you want to update it at the bus rate. An LCD can't possibly
> keep up with even a fraction of that, not could the human eye. You could,
> however, do something along the lines of a 60 Hz update cycle, which is much
> more achievable.
>
> Personally, I like the aesthetics of an LED display better, and the fact
> that it's updating with the bus gives you an idea of how often it's showing
> segments (something you won't get with an LCD).
>
> > For replacing the TIL311 displays, I have seen reference to DIP decoder
> chips that will decode 4 bits of binary into showing hex on standard
> 7-segment displays - 0-9 and A, lower case b, C, lowercase d, E, F. That's
> probably the best option for something that will remain readily
> available.... Or program a DIP PLD device.
>
> There are certainly lots of hardware decoding devices meant for 7-segment
> LEDs (and you can make one with a simple CPLD rather easily). TIL311 style
> devices are becoming more rare, but I think they're certainly the best
> looking ones out there (short of Nixie tubes, I guess, but that's bordering
> on silly).
>
>
> - Dave
>
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