[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: [N8VEM-S100:320] S-100 community project

I think these "Community Projects" will come in different forms. Mike is an example of
someone that can provide files necessary for board production, and some newbies
like myself are quite a ways from that point today.

I think it might be good for Andrew to keep a hand on the process, and help out where
needed, when he has time... He can let us know what he needs to make things work
more smoothly. Some boards he probably feels strongly enough about adding to the
N8VEM collection, and he has been willing to finance the initial phases.

He gets back some of his initial costs over time when he sells the boards. If we expect him
to pay the upfront costs, it is only reasonable he gets to sell the boards.

If he is not going to manufacture and sell the boards, it is folly to expect him to finance
the initial development. I think that needs to be clear when we are talking about a new
project, whether we expect Andrew to order and stock the boards.

If one of us wants to do a similar thing like Andrew, sponsoring the development of a
board, and doing what it takes to make boards available to the community, that would be 
nice, and would expand the scope of what we can do. Andrew can mentor us in how this 
is done.

Someday, I would like to do that, but I have a lot to learn to get there.

Andrew and John have limits to how much they can do and still have lives, When the
time and costs of this activity start to threaten their schedules and budgets, it would be
reasonable that they could ask for help from us, whether it is financial, or to get more
people to roll up their sleeves and help with build and test.

I very much want to learn about digital design and test,  and it is worth money to me
to see this activity continue. Building and debugging these boards is providing a wonderful
framework for my education, and I am having a ball.

We all have different skills and talents (and resources), and if we work together to 
support this process, we can continue to benefit as we have been doing.

What do you think Andrew?


On Jun 19, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Brian Marstella wrote:

I agree about the logistical issues. I'd much rather see Andrew, John, and others who have the technical skills and the required hardware be able to concentrate on the on-going projects and the technical end. Due to financial constraints, a lack of an S-100 machine, and space issues, I can't be much help on the technical and prototyping end. However, I'd be willing to help with logistics issues, maybe compiling a list of interested persons, etc., if that would help keep Andrew and others from being overwhelmed.

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 4:16 PM, mike <mi...@pikeaero.com> wrote:
Hash: SHA1

On 11-06-19 01:03 PM, Andrew Lynch wrote:
> Since John is already fully busy with S-100 8086 CPU board and other
> projects, I'd like to attempt a new development approach.  Since Mike
> already has a design including a schematic, PCB layout, parts list, etc, we
> could do a community build and test.  Basically this would be we take the
> existing design, gather up some funds, get some prototype boards, and send
> them out for initial build and test.

Hi All,

I like the community-build concept, it sort of forces those interested
to belly up to the bar right up front.

Andrew, I think the details may need a little clearing up though. For
example, the gathering of the funds. How should that be done? Perhaps,
should those interested parties, pledge a commitment, and after enough
pledges are tallied to make it feasable to proceed, we go ahead and
collect the pledges, or collect on delivery...anyway, something like that?

After the project funding is sorted out, then who handles the logistics,
currently, Andrew, you seem to be handling the bulk of that, would that
continue to be that way in the "community build" model?

If Andrew, you where to handle the logistics, then I would suppose you
probably would not care to be burdened with PCB work and so on, but
simply the collecting of funds, the ordering, and the distribution? If
this is the case, then boards being submitted for "community build"
would need to be provided to you with finished artwork with Gerbers and
Drill files attached, correct?

Sorry for very basic questions, I guess I'm just trying to clarify the
details somewhat so we can all be on the same page with this. I guess
the core of what I'm driving at is that even in the "community build"
model, you still need some sort of centralized point to handle the

I dunno, thoughts, comments?


Mike Sharkey
Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/