I like the machined sockets but they are just too expensive to use
everywhere.
I use the machine sockets for things like CPU, RAM, EPROMS, and
crystals.
The AMP double swipe are best (IMHO). I still have a bunch of
no-name (maybe chinese)
that are not so good. You can definitely see/feel the difference.
I've had issues with one
of the double swipe pins get bent and no longer make contact.
Sometimes you can cheat
it back in place. The cheap sockets have very thin and fragile pins.
If they get bent, bending it
back can break it.
Funny Josh that you've been able to repair sockets by extracting one
pin. I've done this as well.
Also the cheaper sockets seem to have more plastic in them and don't
take a lot of heat well, so
doing a pin replacement may not work as well.
Moral: You get what you pay for. :^)
On 12/ 2/14 05:55 PM, Richard Cini
wrote:
Josh —
Yes,
definitely AMP sockets.
There
seems to be two serial numbers. On the bottom-right corner
next to the “Serial No.” legend, there is a black stamp with
the number “520650”. Then, perpendicular to that number,
engraved into the ground trace along the right-hand edge, is
the number “4631”.
Rich
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Thanks Rich,
Ahh, so they are like the popular Amp Sockets, I like
those. You can see if the metal contacts are deformed
(which might happen if something thicker than an IC pin
was inserted into them). I was wrong about my sockets,
only some are the RW type, the others are single-wipe
(still cheap) sockets. See pics below. The AMP socket is
just for reference, I laid it on top an old board for a
nicer back ground. But you can see at the bottom of each
pin how the dual-wipes meet each other. If the metal
wipes don't meet each other, then the socket is damaged.
I have in the past even repaired a socket in place by
removing the whole pin from the top and replacing with a
one from another socket.
Re SSM IO4, Interesting to see they are using different
sockets... what's the serial number on your card, I wonder
if mine is an earlier build and they moved to the better
sockets... or it could be the other way around, mine might
be a later build and they moved to cheaper sockets? On
second thought, I guess it doesn't really mean much.
Re Your problems, I understand the kids aren't getting
along. I've been so busy with designing and VCF shows
that I haven't had any time to build anything lately. The
last project I built was your 65C02 board (where I learned
the "C" matters). Well, hopefully, I'll be able to see
my bench after World of Commodore show this weekend.
Cheers, Josh
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 19:27:35
-0500
Subject: Re: [N8VEM-S100:5728] Re: EPROM/RAM board
From: rich...@verizon.net
To: n8vem...@googlegroups.com
Josh —
No, this board
is rock-solid. I have several and use them on
every system I have. The other one I like is the
Interfacer I.
The model I
have on this test system uses double-wipe sockets,
not the enclosed ones you describe. I’m just
having problems with it and the 16-bit CPU (8088)
board).
Rich
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Emulator
Rich, have you ever had any
problems with your SSM IO4? I mentioned
recently that mine was causing ghost characters,
fixed after reseating the chips. I should also
note that it had another problem 2 years ago
when I first started using it (while bringing
the IMSAI back to life). It would seem to work
fine, then after sending a large stream of
characters to the Terminal (all correctly) it
would send the last character a few extra
times... kind of like a car engine with run on.
It was funny to watch... because it would
eventually stop, but it slowed down first. Just
like engine run on... first it sputters, then it
dies after 1 or 2 last kicks.
I never did find the exact cause (at the time, I
was getting tired of fixing everything else that
had gone bad on the IMSAI), but it did correct
it self after reseating the chips.
I am particularly interested in what type/make
of sockets are on your board... I believe all of
mine are "RW". Contacts are hidden, open frame
type sockets.
Cheers,
Josh
From: rich...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: [N8VEM-S100:5726] Re: EPROM/RAM
board
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 10:51:50 -0500
To: n8vem...@googlegroups.com
Welcome back!
No. I don't think the right schematics
and board plots are posted for that
version.
Right now I'm building the Prop IO board.
I can't get the 8088 board working with my
vintage Solid State Music IO4 board (which
works fine with the z80 board). I also can't
seem to get the right jumpers for master
mode.
Sent from my iPhone
Rich, I’m back in CA .
Did you get that RAM/ROM board
version number straightened out?
John
From: n8vem...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:n8vem...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of monahanz
Sent: Saturday, November 22,
2014 2:22 PM
To: n8vem...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [N8VEM-S100:5659]
Re: EPROM/RAM board
The problem
Rich is I'm in Paris currently and
am working from memory. Will not
be back in CA until Dec 1st but it
sounds like you are correct. I
will review the files when I get
back.
On Friday, November 21, 2014
7:56:53 PM UTC-8, AltairManRich
wrote:
I was going to build the
EPROM/RAM board this
weekend but I noticed
that there are several
versions of the board.
Mine says “4213” by the
UL designation in the
upper-left corner and
has “Version 01” in the
lower-right corner. It
also has a coin cell
battery holder on it.
This version doesn’t
match any of the
pictures on the Web site
so before I built it, I
wanted to confirm it was
a good version. If not,
I guess I should get
another one from Ed
Snider (I think).
Collector
of Classic Computers
Build
Master and lead
engineer, Altair32
Emulator
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