Re: [N8VEM-S100:5481] 80386 CPU Board - Component type/value clarification

John...

A much better switcher is the LM22677/78, its rated at 5amp, has a very low 100 mOhms output switch (lower heat) and operate at 500Khz or 1Mhz allowing for a much smaller inductor and output C... TI has a number of variants of this part.... The TO263 case is easy to use, I just put a pair of small 4/40 holes under the power pad and solder it from the back side on my prototypes... I use a Bourns inductors and low cost Panasonic output C.. there all surfaces mount, but they are large and very easy to solder... same with the diode... Other part can all be size 1210 or larger parts, again easy to solder... even with my older eyes...

If you need 2-4 amp or so, this is the part I use in my designs and I would recommend...

There are many other parts like this, but this one is easy to get, simple to use ect....

The LM2576 is rated at 3amp, and switched at 50Khz, requires a very large inductor and very large output C....

tom lafleur

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:04 PM, John Monahan <mon...@vitasoft.org> wrote:

I think I did 4 prototypes on this board Dave, Played around a bit with the caps early on. Did not seem to make a difference (at these low frequencies). The Intel manual has a whole section on board layout. See one page attached here. I ended up with 0.1’s and two 1uF Tants on C71 & C54. Probably more important is the actual power supply. Doing the 80486 I’m learning a lot! On that board I’m bring special wide traces directly to the chip. Also if you can get your hands on one, get a 74H05. There are so many of the 3Amp regulators that are out of specs, it’s ridiculous. While I have a board running at 4.8V’s with one, I really don’t like it.

I am also looking into these newer LM2576’s. See attached. Know anything about them.

BTW, I’m also doing a direct SMD 32MB RAM daughter board (like our 16MB board). Again a tight board fit (see an non optimized version). I will order 4 for myself but since its completely untested I’m not going to announce it yet. But just FYI.

Let me know how the 80386 works. The only thing I’m not comfortable with on that board is the “kludge” to stretch out the pWR* signal. I hope to do it better (clock independent) on this 80486.

John

From: n8vem...@googlegroups.com [mailto:n8vem...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Fry
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 2:37 PM
To: n8vem...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [N8VEM-S100:5481] 80386 CPU Board - Component type/value clarification

Hi John,

I am slowly starting to populate my 80386 PCB with capacitors and have a query regarding C51 and C74 (positioned either side of the 80386 CPU).
The schematic would suggest that these are 0.1uF multilayer ceramic capacitors like the rest, but the pictures on most versions of your 80386 boards would seem to indicate you have used a tantalum bead capacitor in these two positions.

Please can you clarify what type & value of capacitor should be used here.

regards and thanks

David Fry
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