Very interesting Rob!
AMD calls their GALS PALCExxx. Looking at the pinouts, the NS, AMD and Lattice PAL and GAL 16V8's all look the same.
But based on your observation I set the Wellon VP-290 to think it was programming National Semi GAL's and would you believe it programmed OK! Interestingly, if I add the "verify" option, it fails to program correctly. But at least the pins in hardware behave as expected. Clearly a very simple set of equations, will obviously have to do more.
But I may have a solution, thanks for the pointer.
Will also see what Wellon says (they are quite helpful with e-mails BTW).
John
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From: n8vem...@googlegroups.com [mailto:n8vem...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Doyle
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 11:54 AM
To: n8vem...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [N8VEM-S100:2870] Help Programming PAL's/GAL's
On 3/21/2014 9:31 PM, monahanz wrote:
Has anybody in this group had experience in the past programming
simple GAL’s.
I helped some of the folks recreating the Heathkit H89 with more modern parts a few months ago.
The original H89 used fusable link PROMs as decoders - which are mostly unobtainable or expensive. I redesigned the logic so that we could use a bunch of GAL16V8s.
I uses the PALASM4 Ver 1.5 from:
http://www.engr.uky.edu/~melham01/ee481/software.htm
I also used DOSBOX.
I don't see anything wrong with your design.
I don't think PALASM4 supports GALS. Somehow the person that built the board converted from 16L8 format to 16V8 format.
I wouldn't assume that a .JED file for a 16L8 would work with a 16V8.
The JED file is a fusemap.
Also different manufacturers have different programming algorithms.
What part are you using, exactly?
Rob.
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