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Re: [N8VEM-S100:6388] Discussion About Filter Capacitors



Max232a used .1uf cap. 

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On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Crusty OMO <crus...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I think a lot of that was from old data sheets... look at the MAX 232.  The old data sheets show 1uF tantalums, now they use 0.1uf (non-tantalumn)


> From: lcy...@bellsouth.net
> To: n8vem...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [N8VEM-S100:6383] Discussion About Filter Capacitors
> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 03:41:35 -0500
>
> Ceramic disc caps (I have read) are not the best for bypass use nowadays,
> though they used to be in common use.
> Monolithic caps are usually much better for this and take less real estate
> on the PCB.
> Also, I believe the older 78xx and 79xx data sheets specified tantalums?
> Faster transient response, presumably- which helped stabilize the regulator IC.
>
> Leonard
>
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> From: n8vem...@googlegroups.com [mailto:n8vem...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Caprio
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> Subject: [N8VEM-S100:6375] Discussion About Filter Capacitors
>
> I may be trying to over simply this. Each circuit will have different requirements with load playing a part in that. I'm ready to get schooled on the topic.
>
> I see most of our S100 circuits using .1uf and .33uf for filtering the VI and VO on 78xx regulators. I believe this originates from the LM78xx data sheets.
>
> These capacitors are typically electrolytic because of there ability to filter out low frequency ripple and respond to fast load changes.
> Electrolytic are not good at filtering higher frequency due to their higher ESR.
>
> Tantalum's are used because they have lower ESR. Multilayer ceramic also have low ESR and are suppose to be good because they have excellent high frequency response and noise filtering.
>
> I've seen comments that modern day 1uf can be used instead of .1uf.
> The modern day ceramic 1uf's have much better noise performance and low inductance than used to be the case.
>
> So my question is, can I feel confident using ceramic disc capacitors in this application instead of Tantalum? Tantalum tend to be a bit pricey.
>
> Thanks in advance for your comments/suggestions/recommendations.
>
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