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Re: [N8VEM-S100:4332] FreeRouter No longer available. Long term plans for Board layouts



Unfortunately, no. I never worked in the S100 format with it before. All of my work has been random sizes, from near-ECB to 6”x14”.

The S100 connector may exist already, though. You’d have to search by 3M or AMP/Tyco part number.

Rich

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Rich Cini
Collector of Classic Computers
Build Master and lead engineer, Altair32 Emulator

From: John Monahan <mon...@vitasoft.org>
Organization: Vitasoft
Reply-To: S100-Post <n8vem...@googlegroups.com>
Date: Sunday, June 22, 2014 at 7:06 PM
To: S100-Post <n8vem...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: [N8VEM-S100:4332] FreeRouter No longer available. Long term plans for Board layouts

So you have the S100 connector and S100 board dimensions etc. Rich ?

John

 

 

From: n8vem...@googlegroups.com [mailto:n8vem...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Cini
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 3:47 PM
To: S100-Post
Subject: Re: [N8VEM-S100:4331] FreeRouter No longer available. Long term plans for Board layouts

 

John —

 

                DipTrace is my preferred CAD product I did purchase the 1000-hole version and I’ve done all of my 6502 boards with it, and I started re-doing the Altair32 front panel using it. I generally do the physical board layout with their PCB tool and mostly use their router, although I now use the PC/standalone version of FreeRouting for the whole routing and/or optimizing an existing layout.

 

                I have some libraries made for things I’ve used, like Commodore parts and certain connectors. Overall, I’m happy with the product.

 

Rich

 

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Rich Cini

Collector of Classic Computers

Build Master and lead engineer, Altair32 Emulator

 

From: John Monahan <mon...@vitasoft.org>
Reply-To: S100-Post <n8vem...@googlegroups.com>
Date: Sunday, June 22, 2014 at 6:41 PM
To: S100-Post <n8vem...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [N8VEM-S100:4331] FreeRouter No longer available. Long term plans for Board layouts

 

It looks like the http://www.freerouting.net/ web site for FreeRouter is no longer available!

 

This leaves us with a big problem making PC boards with KiCad.  (Fortunately I happen to have the PC version here for my own use), but it opens up a general question as to how we do PC boards (S100 and others) in the future. 

 

Personally I'm having a hard time getting things done with KiCad. The PCBNew program seems (to me) very "finicy" in making files for Freerouter.

 

I'm wondering what other people think about a more "All-in-one" PC CAD program. I once used a program called DipTrace (they have a free version for up to 500 pins to try it out).  See here http://diptrace.com/. The thing that impressed me was the speed in which it converted the schematic into an actual board file and Gurber files.  There was only one program, one interface.  Personally I would spring for paying for the 1000 pin commercial version (or heigher) , I and perhaps others, could run batches for others.

 

The main issue is that for any program we would have to build a library for the S100 connector, board dimensions and presumably a number of other things.

 

I would be interested in hearing comments by others on a way to proceed.   Has anybody else used CAD programs they like.  Anybody got experience with DipTrace

 

 

John

 

 

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