Re: [N8VEM-S100:4063] Re: CF IDE card checkout and final assembly problem

Dave,

have a quick look at gates U6C, U6D & U11F

U7 will not be active for port address 034H

Thomas,

out of interest what CPU card are you using ?

regards

David Fry

On Monday, June 9, 2014 5:45:01 PM UTC+1, yoda wrote:

John

I will say it again - the type of CF card can have no effect on this circuit. Why is DO0 run through the 7407 anyways - it is already buffered at the 244 U7? I think there is so much delay introduced in the circuit that DO0 is never really stable when it is clocked into the 7474. I think it is a race situation and you are lucky if it can ever be deterministic. I guess one thing that might be tried is to eliminate the 7407 by bending out pin 2 of U16 and connecting it to pin 18 of U7? Don't know if that is going to help or not. Thomas can you put logic analyzer on pin 2 and 3 of U16 so we can see the timing relation between the 2 signals - that will tell what is being clocked in.

Dave

On Monday, June 9, 2014 11:19:35 AM UTC-5, monahanz wrote:

Sorry I meant actual CF card itself, Kingston, etc..

John

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Subject: [N8VEM-S100:4063] Re: CF IDE card checkout and final assembly problem

John,

It is the newest batch I believe, '02a'.

Thanks

On Sunday, June 8, 2014 7:58:45 PM UTC-4, Thomas Owen wrote:

All,
I had posted this to the thread dealing with ordering this card, but decided to post a new topic dealing with the problem I have had with final checkout of the board.

During assembly the board passed all the 'in progress' checks. The final steps were to output to different ports:

I have output the following and everything passes:

QO33,80 ; Configures ports A, B and C as output ports
QO32,2B ; Selects right hand pair of digits
QO30,01; display 01on right digit pair and work through each bit - all ok

QO32,2c; Selects middle pair of digits
QO30,01; Should display 01 on middle digit pair, work through each bit - all ok

QO32,2d; Selects left hand pair of digits
QO31,01; Should display 01 on left digit pair, work through each bit - all ok

All displays are correct.

Now the final step is the Drive Select and that is where I am having trouble:

Board always comes up with 'Drive A' selected

Now, QO34,0; no change

Reset, start again:

QO34,1; no change

I can never select drive B.

Several generous members (thank you David Fry) have made suggestions, and here is where I now stand:

My preliminary check this afternoon shows me that there is a timing issue at U15, the 74ls02. Using my logic analyzer and monitoring the inputs and the output (which clocks the drive select flip flop) I see a big timing difference between SEL_SECOND and WR.

What this means is that the output of the gate never goes high allowing the bit change to effect drive change/selection.

I am going to get some screen shots from the analyzer tomorrow, and if anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,
Thomas

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